Hadith 33

(The book) ‘Al Tawheed’ –
From Ali Bin Ahmad Al-Daqqaq, from Al-Kulayni, raising the Hadeeth to Ibn Abu Al-Awja when Abu Abdullah-asws spoke to him, returning to him during the second day, then during the third day. He-asws said: ‘What is the evidence upon occurrence of the bodies? ’
Heasws said: ‘Iasws have not found anything, neither small nor big, except that when the likes of it is combined to it, it gets bigger; and in that is the decline (deterioration) and the change from the former state. And had (all things) being eternal, they would neither deteriorate nor change state, because that which deteriorates and changes, it is allowed that it comes into being and gets abolished. Thus, it would happen to be, by its existence after its non-existence, entering into the occurrence and in its coming into being in the beginning, it would enter into the non-existence, and there would never gather together the qualities of the eternity and the non-existence and the occurrence (coming into being), and the infinity, into one thing’. Abdul Kareem said, ‘Given, that youasws know regarding the flow of the two states and the two times upon what youasws mentioned, and evidence with that upon its occurrence (coming into being). If the things were to remain upon its smallness, from where would that be for you to evidence upon their occurrence? ’
The scholarasws said: ‘But rather, weasws speak upon this universe as the subject. If we were to raise it and place another universe, the nothingness would be evidenced upon the occurrence from our raising it and replacing it with another world, there would be nothing evidencing upon the occurrence from our raising it and placing another. But, Iasws shall answer you from where you measured out to compel usasws. So weasws are saying that the things, had they remained eternally upon their smallness, it would always be in the mind that when something is combined to something the like of it, it would be greater (than before), and with regards to the permissibility of the change upon it, is its exit from the eternity, just as its change is its entry into the occurrence. There is nothing for you behind it, O Abdul Kareem’. So, he cut off (the discussion) and was disgraced’’. [36]
And in (the book) ‘Al-Ihtijaj’ – ‘The quality of the occurrence and the ancientness will never gather in one thing’’. [37]